tzs 2 days ago

> A newly identified wasp species, Chrysonotomyia susbelli, has been discovered in Houston, Texas, marking the 18th new species identified by Rice University's Scott Egan and his research team since 2014. The discovery, the fourth wasp species found on the university grounds in seven years, reveals the hidden world of parasitoid wasps and the intricate ecosystems that thrive outside our doors.

A nice illustration of how much we still don't know about insects. There are around 7 000 new insect species found every year. Entomologists estimate that there are around 10 000 000 undiscovered insect species.

I read a great popular science book on insects [1] (well, I listened to the audiobook edition...does that count as reading it?), and the author said that every summer he put traps to catch flying insects outside his New England house, and nearly every summer he would find insects that were not yet known to science. He'd even find parasitic wasps, the type of insect he was one of the world's foremost experts on, that were not yet known to science.

When it comes to discovering new insect species it seems the hard part is not actually finding them. To do that you just have to regularly capture insects. You don't even have to go to some exotic place that humans have rarely visited--your backyard is probably good enough.

The hard part is recognizing that one of the ones you captured is not one of the 1 000 000 species already known.

[1] "Life on a Little Known Planet: A Biologist's View of Insects and Their World" by parasitic wasp expert Howard Ensign Evans. https://www.amazon.com/Life-Little-Known-Planet-Biologists/d...

  • mmooss 2 days ago

    > The hard part is recognizing that one of the ones you captured is not one of the 1 000 000 species already known.

    So how is that done?

User23 3 days ago

My first thought was “is it parasitic?” And then I click and of course it is.

Parasitic wasps are gross, but fascinating. If I recall correctly there is a parasitic wasp that parasitizes a parasitic wasp that parasitizes a parasitic wasp that parasitizes some kind of caterpillar.

  • mc_maurer 2 days ago

    The term for parasitoids that attack other parasitoids is a "hyperparasitoid". I did my PhD on parasitoids that attack aphids, but I've never heard of a hyper-hyperparasitoid, do you have any reference to that example?

    • klyrs 2 days ago

      I recently discovered the existence of hyperparasitoid wasps much to the delight of my entomologist friend. That these things fly and have working nervous system (apparently ditching the neuronal nuclei during metamorphosis?), the ability to navigate etc. continues to blow my mind. They are so tiny!

      https://www.nature.com/articles/480294a

      • Baeocystin 2 days ago

        Wow! At that size, I wonder if it's even technically still flying, or more like swimming through a thick Brownian motion soup.

    • throwup238 2 days ago

      I was under the impression that it’s fairly common?

        The caterpillar: Often a pest species like the tomato leafminer
        Primary parasitoid: Cotesia glomerata
        Secondary parasitoid: Lysibia nana and some species from the genus Gelis like agilis
        Tertiary parasitoid: Certain species within the Trichogramma or Eulophidae families.
    • yannis 2 days ago

      I love this type of studies is your thesis available somewhere on the web?

  • crazydoggers 2 days ago

    Some of the wasps have even developed a mutualistic relationship with a virus that helps control the hosts immune system. The wasps have integrated the virus genome into their own so their offspring can continue to infect hosts.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3758193/

  • pfdietz 3 days ago

    Parasitism of any kind is fascinating, and is often horrific.

    I was on a bird walk yesterday morning and one of the participants pointed out a brightly colored black and yellow millipede that had climbed up a tree trunk. What was it doing there? I can't be sure, but that species is subject to attack by a fungus that takes control and makes it climb up tree trunks, walls, fenceposts, etc. so that as it expires it discharges spores well above the ground.

    A relevant SMBC: https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2331

    Parasitic wasp interactions are also where nature is truly vicious. A predator like a big cat will hunt many times over its life. It cannot risk too much in each encounter, so the interactions are to some extent subdued, the prey often escaping. But with parasitic wasps, it may succeed just once in its life. The stakes are as high as they can be, and the wasp can risk all to succeed.

  • kennethrc 2 days ago

    > If I recall correctly there is a parasitic wasp that parasitizes a parasitic wasp that parasitizes a parasitic wasp that parasitizes some kind of caterpillar.

    "Yo Dawg, we heard you like parasites, so we put a parasite INSIDE your parasite INSIDE ..."

  • blipvert 2 days ago

    It’s parasitic wasps all the way down.

westward 2 days ago

I'm curious to know if "newly discovered" species existed 20 years ago and were actually just discovered, or if they are a new species that didn't exist until recently.

Is there a way to tell?

Examining old hosts that have died and been preserved and seeing if the 'new species' exists there maybe?

  • stolen_biscuit 2 days ago

    > I'm curious to know if "newly discovered" species existed 20 years ago and were actually just discovered,

    That's exactly it, these wasps existed previously and were just discovered to be distinct from other wasps. Speciation tends to take a very long time (on the order of hundreds of thousands to millions of years) or much shorter if there's a strong enough pressure (e.g. something drastically alters an ecosystem and opens up a lot of new niches for a species to radiate into) but still on the order of tens of thousands of years, see [1] for a great example. This of course depends on generation time (evolution only happens to populations, not individuals), so we see quite rapid evolution in things with short generation times like bacteria.

    For invetebrates like small wasps like this one, it's typically taking the time to sit down and actually identifying them, some species are quite cryptic and it's only obscure or small morphological features that can be used to separate them by eye, and requires genetic analysis to compare and confirm that it's a new species.

    > Examining old hosts that have died and been preserved and seeing if the 'new species' exists there maybe?

    I have an entomologist friend and yes, that does happen. There are probably countless new species that have specimens in museums and universities right now that just haven't been properly analysed

    1: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-extraordinary...

stevenwoo 2 days ago

I remember listening to an interview with a scientist and he speculated there was probably a parasitic wasp for every insect if we looked hard enough, though that doesn’t mean it would have to be different species for each victim.

wglb 5 days ago
  • peppermint_gum 3 days ago

    This is a spam video composed of stock footage. It doesn't add any new information, it shows some random wasp species, unrelated to the ones just discovered, and some random scientists (possibly actors).